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2009-9-13 16:39 沈浪
2009年度第六届轩辕春秋逗三红杯象棋比赛选评

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[DhtmlXQ_comment0]正赛第一轮 流水不争先 先负 天使[/DhtmlXQ_comment0]
[DhtmlXQ_comment7]红如改走车一平二,则炮8进4,红先手效率难以发挥[/DhtmlXQ_comment7]
[DhtmlXQ_comment8]跳边马随机应变,虽然中路稍显薄弱,但红方由于三路马受制也难以利用,由此可见前一回合黑方挺7卒的好处。如随手马2进3,则车九平八,又将形成常见的开局[/DhtmlXQ_comment8]
[DhtmlXQ_comment11]升车巡河是怕黑进炮封压?应改走车一进一[/DhtmlXQ_comment11]
[DhtmlXQ_comment15]上士静观其变,又防止黑炮4进5搔扰,但是稍显缓慢。可能红方是怕黑炮8进6拦车,所以没走车一进一[/DhtmlXQ_comment15]
[DhtmlXQ_comment18]黑卒已在红炮火力范围之内,竟然再进一步,不怕红兵七进一?[/DhtmlXQ_comment18]
[DhtmlXQ_comment19]原来红兵七进一,黑可以炮4平3,由于红炮无根,黑炮有根,下手可以卒3进1吃兵,以下红如炮七进三,则象3进5,炮七进一,马2进4,炮五平七,马4进3,炮七进四,车8进6红右马受攻[/DhtmlXQ_comment19]
[DhtmlXQ_comment21]进车下二路,下着有平八捉死马,但黑方补士之后,红车的位置与原来相比也没有改善,应改走车四进三[/DhtmlXQ_comment21]
[DhtmlXQ_comment23]应车四退四[/DhtmlXQ_comment23]
[DhtmlXQ_comment25]仍应车四退四[/DhtmlXQ_comment25]
[DhtmlXQ_comment27]乍看之下红挺七兵交换后不是得子吗?原来卒3进1,炮七进五,炮4退1!车四退四,车7进1,炮七平一,卒3平2,炮一进二,车7进2,士五退四,车7平8,红反要丢子[/DhtmlXQ_comment27]
[DhtmlXQ_comment39]如改走马六进四,则卒7平8,以下不论红方如何变化,都是黑方优势[/DhtmlXQ_comment39]
[DhtmlXQ_comment40]进中卒限制红方马路,非常细腻的一手[/DhtmlXQ_comment40]
[DhtmlXQ_comment42]准备退6捉马[/DhtmlXQ_comment42]
[DhtmlXQ_comment46]天使本局最大的疑问手,虽白吃一兵,但红马活了。应改走马6进4,则炮九平六,卒3进1,相三进五,卒3平4,相五进三。以下黑方既可以卒4进1捉双,也可以炮9进4,都是胜势[/DhtmlXQ_comment46]
[DhtmlXQ_comment48]如改走炮9退1,则马八退七,黑方丢止过河卒心有不甘[/DhtmlXQ_comment48]
[DhtmlXQ_comment66]解杀[/DhtmlXQ_comment66]
[DhtmlXQ_comment67]伏兵七平六再马七退六绝杀[/DhtmlXQ_comment67]
[DhtmlXQ_comment75]以上黑方走得有些松散,至此已成互有顾忌的局面。但是我不明白红兵为何不吃士?[/DhtmlXQ_comment75]
[DhtmlXQ_comment76]红方超时,黑胜||||援引天使的战报“流水超时了,超时原因是这样的,他在最后几秒点了和局,而我当时恰好没把那个框(就是同意或拒绝的那个)去掉,这样估计在流水那边便无法走棋了”[/DhtmlXQ_comment76]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3_51]以下黑方既可以卒4进1捉双,也可以炮9进4,都是胜势[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_51]
[DhtmlXQ_comment8_27]乍看之下红挺七兵交换后不是得子吗?[/DhtmlXQ_comment8_27]
[DhtmlXQ_comment8_38]红反要丢子[/DhtmlXQ_comment8_38]
[DhtmlXQ_comment10_28]红右马受攻[/DhtmlXQ_comment10_28]
[DhtmlXQ_comment15_8]红先手效率难以发挥[/DhtmlXQ_comment15_8]
[DhtmlXQ_open]B05 中炮对进左马[/DhtmlXQ_open]
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2009-9-13 18:25 不在状态
77的工作量很大啊 加油 :wink:

2009-9-14 19:21 慕容无名
再次崇拜下流水,很厉害,当然天使更厉害:unsure:

2009-9-14 19:52 石敢当
庆幸沈道兄应该没我对局记录,
否则我又该成为反面教材了 - -

2009-9-15 11:12 沈浪
很不幸的是我有石兄的对局记录,不过太过惨不忍睹,如果谁存了他和koeiwang的首盘和无名的两盘请发给我,兴许能挑一盘.:lol:下面的棋评,我又要开始如改走则了:qDD+
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[DhtmlXQ_comment0]第二局 天使 先胜 流水不争先[/DhtmlXQ_comment0]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3]互挺七兵(卒)后再走金钩炮闻所未闻[/DhtmlXQ_comment3]
[DhtmlXQ_comment5]如改走兵三进一,则马7进6,兵三进一,马6进5,黑有炮8进7打马再马5进7得子的手段,以下炮三平五,炮8平5,黑方满意[/DhtmlXQ_comment5]
[DhtmlXQ_comment9]飞相巩固中路,如被黑马7进6再补相,黑马可径取中兵[/DhtmlXQ_comment9]
[DhtmlXQ_comment14]如马2进3怕红方车八进六,但从之后的进程来看,还是应该跳正马[/DhtmlXQ_comment14]
[DhtmlXQ_comment20]弃卒引离红车出动黑车[/DhtmlXQ_comment20]
[DhtmlXQ_comment23]如车九进二,则炮5进4抽车[/DhtmlXQ_comment23]
[DhtmlXQ_comment32]如改走象7进9,炮三平二或平四都是红优[/DhtmlXQ_comment32]
[DhtmlXQ_comment39]黑马卧槽并无威胁所以进马[/DhtmlXQ_comment39]
[DhtmlXQ_comment44]如改走炮7进1,详见变着[/DhtmlXQ_comment44]
[DhtmlXQ_comment48]伏卒3进1[/DhtmlXQ_comment48]
[DhtmlXQ_comment51]阻止黑方卒3进1的计划[/DhtmlXQ_comment51]
[DhtmlXQ_comment59]避开卒5进1捉死马[/DhtmlXQ_comment59]
[DhtmlXQ_comment69]避开黑炮3平2再进炮叫将,红如接走上士黑马3退2抽兵[/DhtmlXQ_comment69]
[DhtmlXQ_comment73]如改走士四进五,则马3退2,后炮平五,马2退4,炮五平四,马4退6,既捉中兵又有马6进7抽兵的棋,所以红方弃相保兵[/DhtmlXQ_comment73]
[DhtmlXQ_comment87]算准已经够赢,天使弃兵打士[/DhtmlXQ_comment87]
[DhtmlXQ_comment89]防黑炮7平6叫杀得炮[/DhtmlXQ_comment89]
[DhtmlXQ_comment119]飞相送吃,让黑马走到不好的位置,非常老练[/DhtmlXQ_comment119]
[DhtmlXQ_comment136]防红下底炮做杀[/DhtmlXQ_comment136]
[DhtmlXQ_comment145]黑认负[/DhtmlXQ_comment145]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_78]黑方必得一兵[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_78]
[DhtmlXQ_comment8_35]红优[/DhtmlXQ_comment8_35]
[DhtmlXQ_comment9_35]红优[/DhtmlXQ_comment9_35]
[DhtmlXQ_comment12_10]黑方满意[/DhtmlXQ_comment12_10]
[DhtmlXQ_open]E40 对兵局[/DhtmlXQ_open]
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2009-9-17 14:46 沈浪
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[DhtmlXQ_comment0]正赛第一轮 慕容宁宁 VS lsytt第二局||||lsytt在小组赛中爆冷战胜无名,力压后者以小组第一出线,而宁宁则是顶替Tony参赛||||第一局lsytt后手布局反先,一直牢牢掌握主动,最后宁宁出大漏着认负[/DhtmlXQ_comment0]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3]令人奇怪的走法[/DhtmlXQ_comment3]
[DhtmlXQ_comment5]飞相保兵,被黑卒兑兵后度数落后。不如改走炮二平五,则象3进5。以下红方可以选择炮八进二或车一平二[/DhtmlXQ_comment5]
[DhtmlXQ_comment8]棋局进行了四个回合,红方的有效步数是三步,虽多于黑的两步。但红只动一兵一相,而黑动了马炮两个大子,局势已然反先[/DhtmlXQ_comment8]
[DhtmlXQ_comment15]可以改走马八进七,黑如接走车8进5变化比较复杂,试举一例:炮八进二,车8平7,马四进六,车7平3,炮八平九,车1平2,马七进八,车3退1,马六进七,炮7平3,马八进九,炮2进1,炮九平八,车3平2,炮八进二,前车退1,炮五进四,士4进5,炮五平八,车2进3[/DhtmlXQ_comment15]
[DhtmlXQ_comment22]封锁红车出路[/DhtmlXQ_comment22]
[DhtmlXQ_comment26]伏车硬杀底相的手段[/DhtmlXQ_comment26]
[DhtmlXQ_comment35]如改走炮五退四,则车3退2捉双,红必失一子,因此红车杀象对攻[/DhtmlXQ_comment35]
[DhtmlXQ_comment37]如改走车八进四,将5平4,车八平五眼看成杀,黑可以弃马解围,马5进7,车三退八,士6进5。红丢车败势[/DhtmlXQ_comment37]
[DhtmlXQ_comment49]如改走车三进一,则车9进3,由于退士或退相,黑都可以炮6平5将军得车,所以红只有走车三退九,则车9平7,相五退三。黑多子多卒胜定[/DhtmlXQ_comment49]
[DhtmlXQ_comment56]如改走车4进7,则车八平五,将5平4,士六进五,车4退5,车五平六,士5进4,车三平七,炮3平1,车七进一,将4进1,车七退三,卒1进1,炮五平六,以下将4平5或士4退5,双方各有顾虑[/DhtmlXQ_comment56]
[DhtmlXQ_comment57]就局势而言,红方应走车八平五 ,则车9平5,士六进五,车5退1,车五退一,车4进7,帅四平五。红方不乏谋和机会[/DhtmlXQ_comment57]
[DhtmlXQ_comment59]如改走车八平五,则炮1平5得子[/DhtmlXQ_comment59]
[DhtmlXQ_comment67]为防黑抽车,红只有平帅避让[/DhtmlXQ_comment67]
[DhtmlXQ_comment70]伏有前车5平6,车三平四,车6进1,帅四进一,车5平6的杀着[/DhtmlXQ_comment70]
[DhtmlXQ_comment76]黑胜。||||这样双方打成1:1平,加赛lsytt很快丢子认负,原来是上厕所憋不住了,汗[/DhtmlXQ_comment76]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_60]黑得子[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_60]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2_59]上士或上相黑炮1平5得子[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_59]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2_63]红方不乏谋和机会[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_63]
[DhtmlXQ_comment5_53]黑多子多卒胜定[/DhtmlXQ_comment5_53]
[DhtmlXQ_comment6_42]红丢车败势[/DhtmlXQ_comment6_42]
[DhtmlXQ_comment7_36]红必失一子[/DhtmlXQ_comment7_36]
[DhtmlXQ_comment9_8]以下红方可以选择炮八进二或车一平二[/DhtmlXQ_comment9_8]
[DhtmlXQ_open]E10 仙人指路对卒底炮[/DhtmlXQ_open]
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2009-9-19 16:42 沈浪
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[DhtmlXQ_comment0]正赛第二轮胜者组 ||天使的爱 VS 天箫 第一局[/DhtmlXQ_comment0]
[DhtmlXQ_comment6]黑方除了进3卒外,也可以走炮8平9平炮亮车[/DhtmlXQ_comment6]
[DhtmlXQ_comment21]我看到的一局棋谱为车二进六,天使在布局的独到之处在于有自己的变着[/DhtmlXQ_comment21]
[DhtmlXQ_comment23]防止黑炮8平7的手段,红车无根只有车二进五,则炮7进5,士四进五,马7退8,黑得相占优[/DhtmlXQ_comment23]
[DhtmlXQ_comment24]进马被红车一捉再退炮,黑棋反陷于被动,不如走车1平4静观其变[/DhtmlXQ_comment24]
[DhtmlXQ_comment26]如卒7进1,则兵三进一,车1平8,马三进二,象5进7,炮七进三红优[/DhtmlXQ_comment26]
[DhtmlXQ_comment27]威胁炮七平九打死车[/DhtmlXQ_comment27]
[DhtmlXQ_comment28]如改走炮2进4,则车六进四,卒7进1,车六进三,车1进2,车六平八,红方得子占优[/DhtmlXQ_comment28]
[DhtmlXQ_comment34]如改走车1退2,则马九进八,马4退3,车六进六,车1平3,兵七进一,士6进5,车六退三,马3进1,兵七进一,车3进1,相五进七,卒5进1,兵五进一 车3平6,相七退五。红优[/DhtmlXQ_comment34]
[DhtmlXQ_comment35]临场天使很快走了进车,黑马4进3的棋没有了[/DhtmlXQ_comment35]
[DhtmlXQ_comment53]如改走马三退二,则马6进8,红一时也难有进展[/DhtmlXQ_comment53]
[DhtmlXQ_comment56]如用炮吃,黑马位不佳,3路卒又在对方口中[/DhtmlXQ_comment56]
[DhtmlXQ_comment60]准备平中炮打车得兵[/DhtmlXQ_comment60]
[DhtmlXQ_comment81]如改走车六平四,马7进6,红只要将其余两兵渡河就是胜势。但天箫在赛后的战报帖中说“可以我对实用残局的熟悉,我已知这是个和棋。”想来有自己的心得。红如接走兵三进一?马6进4!红必丢兵,马双兵难胜马士象全[/DhtmlXQ_comment81]
[DhtmlXQ_comment112]红退车弃兵设下陷阱,黑如不察走车3进2,则车六进四!红胜定[/DhtmlXQ_comment112]
[DhtmlXQ_comment114]至此,双方同意和棋[/DhtmlXQ_comment114]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_113]红胜定[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_113]
[DhtmlXQ_comment5_54]红一时也难有进展[/DhtmlXQ_comment5_54]
[DhtmlXQ_comment6_49]红优[/DhtmlXQ_comment6_49]
[DhtmlXQ_comment7_33]红方得子占优[/DhtmlXQ_comment7_33]
[DhtmlXQ_comment8_31]红优[/DhtmlXQ_comment8_31]
[DhtmlXQ_open]C75 五七炮互进三兵对屏风马边卒右马外盘河 红左横车右马盘河对黑飞左象[/DhtmlXQ_open]
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2009-9-23 20:21 沈浪
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[DhtmlXQ_comment0]正赛第二轮 胜者组||leizhen 先负 慕容宁宁[/DhtmlXQ_comment0]
[DhtmlXQ_comment5]可以考虑走兵三进一,黑如接走炮8进7,则车一平二,车9平8, 车二进一,下着车九进一即可摆脱牵制[/DhtmlXQ_comment5]
[DhtmlXQ_comment11]防黑炮2平3再车1平2出车捉炮[/DhtmlXQ_comment11]
[DhtmlXQ_comment15]准备车七进二捉炮和兵七进一渡河[/DhtmlXQ_comment15]
[DhtmlXQ_comment17]飞边相,依然是避免黑车1平2的先手,但是阵型就不整了[/DhtmlXQ_comment17]
[DhtmlXQ_comment24]如交换,黑方还要保象[/DhtmlXQ_comment24]
[DhtmlXQ_comment25]如改走马五进七,则车9平4,下着车2退3得子[/DhtmlXQ_comment25]
[DhtmlXQ_comment27]红方飞边相的弱点暴露出来了,由于马炮被牵不能飞中相[/DhtmlXQ_comment27]
[DhtmlXQ_comment31]如改走车七平二,则马5进7,车二退一,卒7进1。以下红如车一平四,则炮7平5,士四进五,车2平6,黑优[/DhtmlXQ_comment31]
[DhtmlXQ_comment37]我曾请四海看过此局,他指出车一平四,车6平8,炮二进二,炮1进3,车四进三,车2进5,帅五平四,炮1平3,帅四进一,感觉||比实战中应该略好一点[/DhtmlXQ_comment37]
[DhtmlXQ_comment39]红不能车七平五吃炮,因车2进5,车五平七,炮1平3,车七退三 ,车2平3。红被迫一车换双,黑优[/DhtmlXQ_comment39]
[DhtmlXQ_comment43]如改走相七进九,车8进5,黑优[/DhtmlXQ_comment43]
[DhtmlXQ_comment53]平车捉炮帮忙之着,应直接炮打象[/DhtmlXQ_comment53]
[DhtmlXQ_comment59]如果红车仍在七路,就可以进车吃马[/DhtmlXQ_comment59]
[DhtmlXQ_comment65]如改走士六进五,则车8平5,炮二退一,马6进5,车四平五,车5平6,黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment65]
[DhtmlXQ_comment79]改走车四退一,则将5退1,车九平五,前车进1依然黑优,但优于实战[/DhtmlXQ_comment79]
[DhtmlXQ_comment81]打士败着,依然可以退车将军再车六平五[/DhtmlXQ_comment81]
[DhtmlXQ_comment88]红认负||||第二局宁宁再下一城,以2:0战胜leizhen,继续留在胜者组,而小雷则前往败者组[/DhtmlXQ_comment88]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2_70]黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_70]
[DhtmlXQ_comment4_44]黑优[/DhtmlXQ_comment4_44]
[DhtmlXQ_comment5_44]红被迫一车换双,黑优[/DhtmlXQ_comment5_44]
[DhtmlXQ_comment7_38]黑优[/DhtmlXQ_comment7_38]
[DhtmlXQ_open]A40 起马局[/DhtmlXQ_open]
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[color=Silver][[i] 本帖最后由 沈浪 于 2009-9-24 21:58 编辑 [/i]][/color]

2009-9-24 06:27 狂笑四海
[quote]我曾请四海看过此局,他指出车一平四,车6平8,炮二进二,炮1进3,车四进三,车2进5,帅五平四,炮1平3,帅四进一,感觉比实战中应该略好一点[/quote]

我都忘了你还记得啊 哈哈哈

[quote]22回合变招:如改走相七进九,车2退1,车七退三,车2平5,帅五平四,马7进6。黑胜势[/quote]

如果黑走马7进6,红炮五进四,黑将失车。

2009-9-25 08:56 沈浪
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[DhtmlXQ_comment0]正赛第三轮(双败淘汰制)胜者组||慕容宁宁 V 狂笑四海 第一局[/DhtmlXQ_comment0]
[DhtmlXQ_comment15]跳马必要,否则黑车9平2再车2进6牵制[/DhtmlXQ_comment15]
[DhtmlXQ_comment21]至此局面,与上一届决赛第四局枫叶飘翎先胜一把大刀几乎完全相同,当然行棋的方向和先后次序不同,而且红方相已飞起,没有补士,黑进马吃中兵不是先手,所以当时红方走的是兵三进一[/DhtmlXQ_comment21]
[DhtmlXQ_comment24]卸中炮,预防红马三进五,黑如用炮吃,则兵三进一;如象7进5,则车四进六[/DhtmlXQ_comment24]
[DhtmlXQ_comment26]进车虚晃一枪,主要是为了红炮九平七后可以象飞中路[/DhtmlXQ_comment26]
[DhtmlXQ_comment28]如进马吃相,则炮七进三,士4进5,炮二退一,马5进7,车四进一得子[/DhtmlXQ_comment28]
[DhtmlXQ_comment30]如改走车4退5,则炮二进五暗保红炮,以下黑如车4平3,马三进五逼黑一车换双[/DhtmlXQ_comment30]
[DhtmlXQ_comment32]退马,伏车4进2[/DhtmlXQ_comment32]
[DhtmlXQ_comment34]如改走车4进2,则车二进七,车4平3,马七进六,卒3进1,马六进四,马7退5,车二进一,红优||||又如改走炮8平9,则马三进一, 象7进9,炮三进六,炮3平7,车二进七,炮7退2,车二平一,||红方得象占优[/DhtmlXQ_comment34]
[DhtmlXQ_comment52]宁宁提和,四海接受。不一会宁宁断线,第二天上Q收到她的消息“昨天网出问题了,今天晚上回家看看吧,不好意思”||||第二局援引宁宁的战报||“慕容宁宁1.5:0.5狂笑四海||感谢四海兄百忙之中抽出时间来和我比赛,为了不耽误比赛流程,四海兄做出了很大的牺牲,今天明显不在最佳状态,胜的很侥幸,希望以后有机会能真正的和四海兄好好交流下”[/DhtmlXQ_comment52]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_41]红优[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_41]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2_41]红方得象占优[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_41]
[DhtmlXQ_open]E03 仙人指路对中炮[/DhtmlXQ_open]
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2009-9-28 22:35 沈浪
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[DhtmlXQ_comment0]胜者组第四轮 ||慕容宁宁 VS 天使的爱||||第一局宁宁断线,天使选择重下(不按上局棋谱走),但是根据规则断线方在20分肿内不能取胜则作负,简单的说就是“和棋黑胜”。本局为断线后第一局[/DhtmlXQ_comment0]
[DhtmlXQ_comment12]进炮比较少见,河北的象棋大师苗利明对此素有研究。除此之外可以走炮8平9,红如车二平三则车8进2成高车保马或马7进6成左马盘河[/DhtmlXQ_comment12]
[DhtmlXQ_comment19]平车四路不知何故,我以为应平六路[/DhtmlXQ_comment19]
[DhtmlXQ_comment25]防黑将5平4叫杀[/DhtmlXQ_comment25]
[DhtmlXQ_comment26]如改走将5平4,则马五进六,车4退2,士四进五,局势透松[/DhtmlXQ_comment26]
[DhtmlXQ_comment27]如改走马五进四,则马3进4(车四进四,炮2退2打死车),车四平七,炮8平6,黑方得子[/DhtmlXQ_comment27]
[DhtmlXQ_comment30]如改走炮8平5,则马三进五,车8进8,局势透松[/DhtmlXQ_comment30]
[DhtmlXQ_comment31]如改走炮二进八,则马4进6,黑必得回一子[/DhtmlXQ_comment31]
[DhtmlXQ_comment43]进马导致失子,改走马六进四较好[/DhtmlXQ_comment43]
[DhtmlXQ_comment44]黑方经过思考之后,开始了表演[/DhtmlXQ_comment44]
[DhtmlXQ_comment47]红如补士则丢炮,忍痛送炮解除黑方车4进3的攻势[/DhtmlXQ_comment47]
[DhtmlXQ_comment48]死子不急吃,进车兵线捞取多卒优势,非常老练[/DhtmlXQ_comment48]
[DhtmlXQ_comment56]宁宁断线,回来后认输[/DhtmlXQ_comment56]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2_32]局势透松[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_32]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3_30]黑方得子[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_30]
[DhtmlXQ_comment5_29]局势透松[/DhtmlXQ_comment5_29]
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2009-10-1 09:15 石敢当
看了这局才知道什么叫差距啊 - -

炮2进1该是屏风马弃马陷车局的新变化,
紧要处在于红不能吃马后,立刻车三退一 再车三平二 亏两步棋还些便宜。。
不看棋谱三十多年,我真的不知道棋还可以这样走。

沈道友,这棋我无从评起了

其实你应该发奖励帖

把棋局贴上 让对阵者自评,奖励是你全副家当,欠着的就以后按高利贷利息还

必有勇夫啊 - -

[color=Silver][[i] 本帖最后由 石敢当 于 2009-10-1 09:23 编辑 [/i]][/color]

2009-10-4 09:41 沈浪
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[DhtmlXQ_red]天使的爱[/DhtmlXQ_red]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment0]第四轮 胜者组第二局||||天使先胜宁宁[/DhtmlXQ_comment0]
[DhtmlXQ_comment19]沈:也可改走车四进六,则炮4进1, 马三进四,炮4平8,马四进五, 马3进5,炮五进四,将5进1。互有顾虑[/DhtmlXQ_comment19]
[DhtmlXQ_comment22]沈:伏炮2平5抽车[/DhtmlXQ_comment22]
[DhtmlXQ_comment23]沈:如改走马五进四,则炮4平5,士四进五,车8进7,马四进三,士4进5,双方另具攻守[/DhtmlXQ_comment23]
[DhtmlXQ_comment48]沈:平炮叫将,防红车四进二[/DhtmlXQ_comment48]
[DhtmlXQ_comment69]沈:如改走车八平七企图简化局势,则 马2进3,车四平七,卒5进1。黑优[/DhtmlXQ_comment69]
[DhtmlXQ_comment86]沈:吃相败着,应改走炮7平3,不过红接走相三退五,下着车二平七必然兑车[/DhtmlXQ_comment86]
[DhtmlXQ_comment90]沈:如改走炮7平6,黑方依然难以避免失子[/DhtmlXQ_comment90]
[DhtmlXQ_comment93]沈:黑见必然丢炮,再无取胜扳平比分希望遂认负,以下为拟着[/DhtmlXQ_comment93]
[DhtmlXQ_comment4_72]黑优[/DhtmlXQ_comment4_72]
[DhtmlXQ_comment7_26]得车[/DhtmlXQ_comment7_26]
[DhtmlXQ_comment8_29]双方另具攻守[/DhtmlXQ_comment8_29]
[DhtmlXQ_comment9_26]互有顾虑[/DhtmlXQ_comment9_26]
[DhtmlXQ_open]C04 中炮七路马对屏风马 红进中兵对黑双炮过河[/DhtmlXQ_open]
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2009-10-10 16:06 沈浪
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[DhtmlXQ_comment0]第四轮败者组 第二局(首局和)||||leizhen 先负天箫[/DhtmlXQ_comment0]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2]石:第一回合 雷道兄率先进马,天萧道兄还架中炮,从开局棋理上说是很不妥当的。毕竟先手中炮尚且与后手屏风马打成平手,何况是后手中炮对阵先手屏风马?不过棋由人而下出来的,棋理上的参考只是相对,而非绝对。且看黑方突出奇招能收到什么效果吧?[/DhtmlXQ_comment2]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3]沈:既然对方用中炮应进马,我认为可以车九平八||||石:同沈道兄想法,亦可处理成马二进三或挺起马头卒,出横车虽仍有先手,但过早定位,是其一弊。而且,后手屏风马对先手中炮 也甚少第二步就出横车的例子。[/DhtmlXQ_comment3]
[DhtmlXQ_comment6]沈:出横车是防止红方车四进七,可以改走车1平2,红如车四进七,则马8进7,车四平三,炮8进2,以下红如车三退一,则炮8平7得车[/DhtmlXQ_comment6]
[DhtmlXQ_comment7]沈:进车捉炮,不让黑方走成正马[/DhtmlXQ_comment7]
[DhtmlXQ_comment8]沈:天箫在赛后的战报中说“应该炮8进2或者8退1应该好一点”||||拟了下变着,各位自己看吧[/DhtmlXQ_comment8]
[DhtmlXQ_comment9]石:红方棋型已经开始出现溃散迹象,仗着有一先半而走出过度浮的棋,不算明智;此时我觉得仍可安从坦道,走马二进三调整棋型。[/DhtmlXQ_comment9]
[DhtmlXQ_comment12]沈:打兵,为左马正出留出位置[/DhtmlXQ_comment12]
[DhtmlXQ_comment16]石:至此,黑方炮打兵,车邀兑,已然反先。红方右横车看来是未收秘剑之效。[/DhtmlXQ_comment16]
[DhtmlXQ_comment17]沈:如改走车四平一,则象7进9,红并无便宜[/DhtmlXQ_comment17]
[DhtmlXQ_comment25]红车不能吃炮,因马7进6捉双车[/DhtmlXQ_comment25]
[DhtmlXQ_comment33]沈:贪得一象,反受到黑车追逐||||石:此时我是觉得马三进四强兑马,可以做些挽回,黑马4进6,车六进三,士5进4,车四进一。局面还有两分的机会。[/DhtmlXQ_comment33]
[DhtmlXQ_comment38]沈:准备马4退6截断红炮退路[/DhtmlXQ_comment38]
[DhtmlXQ_comment39]沈:如改走炮四退四,卒7进1。黑卒渡河占优[/DhtmlXQ_comment39]
[DhtmlXQ_comment48]石:这步退炮实在深得委琐阴险之妙,另从这一回双方腾挪来看,红竭力挣扎,黑竭力布网收网,弈来精彩。[/DhtmlXQ_comment48]
[DhtmlXQ_comment51]沈:如车五平七,则士5进6,由此可见23回合黑退炮之妙[/DhtmlXQ_comment51]
[DhtmlXQ_comment54]石:大局已定了,但我看到之后还有50多回合的记录,也不得不叹雷道兄和稀泥了得 - - 换着是我,草草几步就可以交代了,不用麻烦沈道兄再费口舌。[/DhtmlXQ_comment54]
[DhtmlXQ_comment55]沈:如改走车五平三,则炮6退2,下步有炮6平7打双,就可以活通子力[/DhtmlXQ_comment55]
[DhtmlXQ_comment58]沈:进炮打马再退回反使红马可以跃出,不如直接退炮[/DhtmlXQ_comment58]
[DhtmlXQ_comment63]石:此着还是走车五平三吃卒为好,中路攻势只有两子,远未成气候,马即使慢出一步 也不见得有什么影响。[/DhtmlXQ_comment63]
[DhtmlXQ_comment64]沈:保士兼马捉相[/DhtmlXQ_comment64]
[DhtmlXQ_comment68]沈:走到其他地方,红方都可以马七进六吃士[/DhtmlXQ_comment68]
[DhtmlXQ_comment70]石:红悔恨已迟,黑卒过河 哪怕毫不贪心换红一象一士,红也无法走出官和的可能,何况天萧道兄怎么看都不象良善之辈 - -[/DhtmlXQ_comment70]
[DhtmlXQ_comment81]防黑卒6进1,红如用士吃,则车5进2再炮7进3得子[/DhtmlXQ_comment81]
[DhtmlXQ_comment99]沈:伏车七进三再马七进八杀[/DhtmlXQ_comment99]
[DhtmlXQ_comment107]沈:红并无后续手段,所以退车兑车,希望在擅长的无车棋中寻找和棋机会||||石:看到这里 我只在想 红之后还有20多合 是怎么走过来的。。[/DhtmlXQ_comment107]
[DhtmlXQ_comment109]沈:用相吃自阻七兵进路,为何不用兵吃?[/DhtmlXQ_comment109]
[DhtmlXQ_comment121]沈:可改走马五退三,再马三退四,黑棋兑或不兑都将增加取胜难度[/DhtmlXQ_comment121]
[DhtmlXQ_comment133]沈:如改走马六退七,则马8进6,马一退三,马6退5得子[/DhtmlXQ_comment133]
[DhtmlXQ_comment139]石:先弃后取 算度深远||||形势和构想是互相维系的。但一边倒的形势并不好看,有个巧妙设计的构想,给对手一点冀望,同时也锻炼到自己。这种棋走来比纯粹仗着优势来赢要精彩。||||贫道的闲话 就到这里为止了。||||归位吧 \u003D \u003D[/DhtmlXQ_comment139]
[DhtmlXQ_comment143]沈:如改走帅四进一,则炮8平6,帅四进一,士5进6黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment143]
[DhtmlXQ_comment153]沈:改走马八退六也许有一线和棋希望,以下马8退6,士六进五, 马6退4,士五进四,马4退2[/DhtmlXQ_comment153]
[DhtmlXQ_comment158]沈:黑平炮打士非常及时,被红退相就吃不到了[/DhtmlXQ_comment158]
[DhtmlXQ_comment163]沈:防黑炮2退8杀着[/DhtmlXQ_comment163]
[DhtmlXQ_comment167]沈:改走兵一平二黑方还是进将[/DhtmlXQ_comment167]
[DhtmlXQ_comment170]沈:红认负[/DhtmlXQ_comment170]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2_146]黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_146]
[DhtmlXQ_comment11_37]局面还有两分的机会。[/DhtmlXQ_comment11_37]
[DhtmlXQ_comment15_16]如改走马8进7,则炮二平七,象3进1,车一平二[/DhtmlXQ_comment15_16]
[DhtmlXQ_open]A40 起马局[/DhtmlXQ_open]
[DhtmlXQ_comment8_48]黑优[/DhtmlXQ_comment8_48][DhtmlXQ_comment43]沈:如改走车四平八,则炮2平3,炮四平八,卒3进1,相五进七,卒7进1。黑优[/DhtmlXQ_comment43]
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2009-10-13 21:55 沈浪
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[DhtmlXQ_comment0]第四轮败者组 ||||慕容无名 先负 狂笑四海||||感谢无名提供棋谱||||沈:首局无名后手新招未能奏效,反而招致败局,本局再负就要被淘汰了[/DhtmlXQ_comment0]
[DhtmlXQ_comment23]沈:进车骑河是为了拓展自己的活动空间,同时防止黑进炮封车。但黑已结成担子炮,如进炮封压反成无根车炮。||||我看到的棋谱好象是先飞相[/DhtmlXQ_comment23]
[DhtmlXQ_comment27]沈:不如改走车二退五,左车可以随时支援右翼[/DhtmlXQ_comment27]
[DhtmlXQ_comment29]沈:如改走车二平四,则车6进4,以下红如车九平六?车6进4!伏炮8进7杀,红只有动士,黑得车胜定。[/DhtmlXQ_comment29]
[DhtmlXQ_comment33]沈:黑双车皆已占据好位,不容红不兑了[/DhtmlXQ_comment33]
[DhtmlXQ_comment35]沈:可以改走炮五平一,黑进车时就可以拦炮[/DhtmlXQ_comment35]
[DhtmlXQ_comment36]沈:进卒消除己方阵型中最后一点隐忧,放手发动攻势。如先用车捉炮,红可炮打边卒[/DhtmlXQ_comment36]
[DhtmlXQ_comment55]沈:平炮意图夺取边卒,然而底线门户大开[/DhtmlXQ_comment55]
[DhtmlXQ_comment57]沈:如改走车一平二,则车5进1,车二退四,车5平2||||黑净多双卒一象,胜势[/DhtmlXQ_comment57]
[DhtmlXQ_comment58]沈:伏炮1进6再车5平2[/DhtmlXQ_comment58]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment83]沈:红此时不能吃炮,因炮6平4, 车五平六,卒4进1黑胜或卒4进1, 帅六进一,车5平4。也是黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment83]
[DhtmlXQ_comment90]沈:下着士5进4,红认负[/DhtmlXQ_comment90]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_86]黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_86]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3_60]黑净多双卒一象,胜势[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_60]
[DhtmlXQ_open]C72 五七炮互进三兵对屏风马边卒右马外盘河[/DhtmlXQ_open]
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2009-10-14 11:33 狂笑四海
15楼 黑37回合:

[quote]沈:伏炮5平4绝杀[/quote]

如果平炮叫将,红尚可炮五平六舍炮抵御,我当时对阵时候的想法是卒4进1,帅六进一,车5平4杀。

这个问题在后面42回合的变招中也是依然存在的。

2009-10-18 18:44 沈浪
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[DhtmlXQ_comment0]决赛第一局||||天使的爱 先胜 慕容宁宁[/DhtmlXQ_comment0]
[DhtmlXQ_comment15]防黑车4进6再车4退2[/DhtmlXQ_comment15]
[DhtmlXQ_comment20]准备打中兵[/DhtmlXQ_comment20]
[DhtmlXQ_comment22]防红兵七进一[/DhtmlXQ_comment22]
[DhtmlXQ_comment32]应马8进6尽快出动大子[/DhtmlXQ_comment32]
[DhtmlXQ_comment35]阻止黑方8路马的出动[/DhtmlXQ_comment35]
[DhtmlXQ_comment36]准备出动左马,但是同样动炮,应该进炮[/DhtmlXQ_comment36]
[DhtmlXQ_comment40]红兵吃象突施冷箭,黑如象3进5,则马四进五,黑要解杀只有动士,红炮七进三得车[/DhtmlXQ_comment40]
[DhtmlXQ_comment50]退士反而限制了老将的活动范围[/DhtmlXQ_comment50]
[DhtmlXQ_comment54]对形势估计过于乐观,不如炮6平7[/DhtmlXQ_comment54]
[DhtmlXQ_comment62]应改走马6退8,则车三平四,马8退6,车四平五。红优,但优于实战[/DhtmlXQ_comment62]
[DhtmlXQ_comment68]四海在局后说第一感是车9平5,然而相七进五,后马进5,相三进五,车5进1,士六进五,车5进1,马六进七,炮6平4,士四退五。红得车胜定[/DhtmlXQ_comment68]
[DhtmlXQ_comment73]至此,黑大势已去,以下聊尽人事而已[/DhtmlXQ_comment73]
[DhtmlXQ_comment77]下着马六进四[/DhtmlXQ_comment77]
[DhtmlXQ_comment79]黑认负[/DhtmlXQ_comment79]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2_65]红优,但优于实战[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_65]
[DhtmlXQ_comment7_41]黑要解杀只有动士,红炮七进三得车[/DhtmlXQ_comment7_41]
[DhtmlXQ_open]E33 仙人指路转左中炮对卒底炮飞左象 红左直车右边马对黑连进7卒右横车[/DhtmlXQ_open]
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2009-10-22 20:45 沈浪
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[DhtmlXQ_comment0]决赛第三局||||天使 先胜 慕容宁宁||||上局宁宁出人意料的获胜(详见四海棋评)[/DhtmlXQ_comment0]
[DhtmlXQ_comment12]沈:上士被红方马七进八封车,不如出车对捉[/DhtmlXQ_comment12]
[DhtmlXQ_comment17]沈:兑车虽损一先,但将黑方的活车兑去,而黑右车又难以出动,局势自然对红方有利[/DhtmlXQ_comment17]
[DhtmlXQ_comment24]沈:如改走象7进5,则炮八进四,前炮退2,炮八平六,马6退4,炮三平一。红优[/DhtmlXQ_comment24]
[DhtmlXQ_comment26]沈:出车自然被封,不如改走象3进5,看红应手再作定夺[/DhtmlXQ_comment26]
[DhtmlXQ_comment28]沈:可改走马6进7免除后患[/DhtmlXQ_comment28]
[DhtmlXQ_comment35]沈:准备退车捉炮[/DhtmlXQ_comment35]
[DhtmlXQ_comment58]沈:平中车固属劣着,但也找不到好棋可走[/DhtmlXQ_comment58]
[DhtmlXQ_comment60]沈:防红炮四平九再车二进四[/DhtmlXQ_comment60]
[DhtmlXQ_comment61]沈:下着车二进四捉死车,黑只有上士丢炮,故认负[/DhtmlXQ_comment61]
[DhtmlXQ_comment8_29]红优[/DhtmlXQ_comment8_29]
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2009-10-25 20:24 沈浪
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[DhtmlXQ_comment0]决赛第四局||||慕容宁宁 先负 天使的爱[/DhtmlXQ_comment0]
[DhtmlXQ_comment13]看到棋谱愣了一下,这是唱的哪出?想想也只能是准备马九进七,黑炮如打兵抽车可以马三进五再马五退七先弃后取。[/DhtmlXQ_comment13]
[DhtmlXQ_comment15]黑进炮封压后,红原计划已不能实现,退炮调整阵型。[/DhtmlXQ_comment15]
[DhtmlXQ_comment18]不如改走炮2进1,进一步压迫红方子力,宁宁兵三进一的棋没有了[/DhtmlXQ_comment18]
[DhtmlXQ_comment57]交换必然,不然黑马5进7后红右翼空虚[/DhtmlXQ_comment57]
[DhtmlXQ_comment62]此时交换即成和棋[/DhtmlXQ_comment62]
[DhtmlXQ_comment65]被黑马将军将形成攻势,所以退马守卧槽[/DhtmlXQ_comment65]
[DhtmlXQ_comment84]因宁宁困了坚持不住,认负。但天使前三局二胜一负,胜者组冠军加分0.5,此局下和积分也达3分,依然夺冠||||以下为拟着[/DhtmlXQ_comment84]
[DhtmlXQ_comment87]捉死黑炮,但是各位不要得意,黑方可以用炮打兵脱身。附带说一句,即使四十二回合红走的是兵六平七,照实战的下法,炮双兵依然难胜马士象全[/DhtmlXQ_comment87]
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